This link tells the history as we know it to be TRUE.

[www.terrorismawareness.org]

the Silent Majority




>
> >by Dr. Emanual Tanay, Psychiatrist
> >
> >
> >A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War ll owned a
> >number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German
> >people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude
> >toward fanaticism.
> >
> >'Very few people were true Nazis 'he said,' but many enjoyed the return
> >of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of
> >those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the
> >majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it,
> >they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had
> >come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp
> >and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
> >
> >We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam
> >is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just
> >want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be
> >true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to
> >make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of
> >fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is
> >that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
> >
> >It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of
> >50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically
> >slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are
> >gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is
> >the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the
> >fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who
> >zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and
> >homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the 'peaceful
> >majority', the 'silent majority', is cowed and extraneous.
> >
> >Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in
> >peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of
> >about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
> >China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists
> >managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
> >
> >The average Japanese individual prior to World War ll was not a
> >warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way
> >across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the
> >systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by
> >sword, shovel, and bayonet.
> >
> >And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it
> >not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
> >
> >History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our
> >powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
> > Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
> >Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up,
> >because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find
> >that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
> >
> >Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs,
> >Afghanis, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many
> >others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until
> >it was too late.
> >
> >As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only
> >group that counts: the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
> >
> >Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is
> >serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is
> >contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems of expand.
> >So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this - think about it - and send it on.
>
>
>


>

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News of the World live.

interresting.
E

chere lison
content de te lire de nouveau !! j' attire ton attention que sur ce site il est preferable d'ecrire en français si tu veux que les gens te comprennent et te repondent ! !! et c'est plus poli!!moi perso je lis l'anglais mais si j'ecrivais en hebreu ou en arabe pourrais tu me comprendre ?
a plus yossi1

IL NE FAUT PAS COMPTER LES MOTS !! IL FAUT LES PESER !! salomon/LES ROIS

Elle n'écrit en anglais que sur ce thread. Et ça doit être l'occasion pour les gens qui sont plus à l'aise dans la langue de Shakespeare de s'exprimer. Y a rien de mal ...

La logique ne s'attendrit pas. [V. Hugo]

Merci Yossi1 de la remarque,
les articles interressants en anglais trop complexes à traduire, je les posterais en anglais, et nos commentaires en Français.

si non, comme d'autres sujets... celui ci reculera dans les oubliettes.



Lison

Yossi1, je ne pense pas que cet article sur le lien ci-dessous existe en Français,

c'est un chef d'oeuvre,

[www.aboutisrael.co.il]

des photos splendides et des commentaires qui vont avec.

Elisabeth

Les paysages sur ces photos, ainsi que l'architecture sont splendides.. tu me donnes plus envie de visiter Israël merci Élisabeth.

a prendre avec humour.. c est genialement dit...The committee to be un-chosen


No offense meant to anyone, but it came from Israel and if they can still have a sense of humor at this time, then so can we......

To: The Lord G-d Almighty a.k.a. Ha'shem, Shadai, Elohim, etc.
From: The Jews: a.k.a. The Chosen People
Subject: Termination of Contract/Special Status (Chosen People)

As you are aware, the contract made between you and Abraham is up for renewal, and this memorandum is to advise you that after, yea, those many millennia of consideration, we, the Jews (The Chosen People) have decided that we really do not wish to renew.

We should point out immediately that there is nothing in writing, and, contrary to popular beliefs, we (The Jews) have not really benefited too much from this arrangement. If you go back to the early years of our arrangement, it definitely started off on the wrong footing. Not only was Israel and Judea invaded almost every year, but we also went to enormous expense to erect not one but two Temples, and they were both destroyed.

All we have left is a pile of old stones called the Western Wall (of course you know all this, but we feel it's a good thing to account for all the reasons we wish to terminate the contract). After the Hittites, Assyrians, Goliaths, etc, not only were we beaten up almost daily, but then we were sold off as slaves to Egypt of all countries, and really lost a few hundred years of development.

Now we realize that you went to a great deal of trouble to send Moses to lead us out of Egypt, and those poor Egyptian buggers were smitten (smote?) with all those plagues. But, reflecting on those years, we are at a loss to understand why it took almost forty years to make a trip that El Al now does in 75 minutes. Also, while not appearing to be ungrateful, for y ears a lot of people have asked why Moses led us left instead of r ight at Sinai? If we had gone right, we would have had the oil!

OK, so the oil was not part of the deal, but then the Romans came and we really were up to our necks in dreck. While it's true that the Romans did give us water fit to drink, aqueducts, and baths, it was very disconcerting to walk down one of the vias, look up, and see one of your friends or family nailed to a three-by-four looking for all the world like a sign post. Even one of our princes, Judah Ben Hur got caught up with Roman stuff and drove like a crazy man around the Coliseum. It's a funny thing but many people swore that Ben Hur had an uncanny resemblance to Moses...go figure.

Then, of all things, one of our rabbis (teachers) declared himself "Son of You" (there was nothing said about this with Abe) and before we knew what was what, a whole new religion sprang up. To add insult to injury, we were dispersed all over the wo rld two or three times while this new religion really caught on! We were tru l y sorry to hear that the Romans executed him like so many others, but, ...alas, (and this will make you laugh,) once again WE were blamed. Now here's something we really don't understand. That our rabbi really came into his own. Millions of people revered and worshipped his name and scriptures. ..... and still killed us by the millions.

They claimed we drank the blood of new born infants, and controlled the world banks (Oy! if only that were so.) We could have bought them all off, and operated the worlds' media and so on and so on. Are we beginning to make our point here?

OK so let's fast-forward a few hundred years to the Crusades. Hoo boy! Again we were caught in the middle! They, the Lords and Knights, came from all over Europe to smack the Arabs and open up the holy places, but before we knew what hit us, they were killing us right, left, and c enter along with everyone else. Every time a king or a pope was down in the opinion polls, they called a crusade or hol y war, and went on a killing rampage in our land.

Today it's called Jihad. OK, so you tested us a little there, but then some bright cleric in Spain came up with the Inquisition. We all thought it was a new game show, but once again we and, we must admit, quite a few others were used as firewood for a whole new street lighting arrangement in major Spanish cities.

All right, so that ended after about a hundred years or so... in the scheme of things not a long time. But every time we settled down in one country or another, they kicked us out! So we wandered around a few hundred years or so, but it never changed. Finally we settled in a few countries but they insisted we all live in ghettoes...no Westchester's of Moscow for us. There we are in the ghettoes, when what do you know?

The Russians come up with the Pogroms. We all thought they made a spelling mistake and misspelled programs, but we were dead wrong (no pun intended). Apparently, when there was nothing el se for them to do, killing the Jews (a.k.a. The Chosen People, are you getting our drift?) was the in thing.

Now comes some really tough noogies. We were doing quite well, thank you, in a small European country called Germany, when some house painter wrote a book, said a few things that caught on and became their leader....whoo boy what a bad day that was for us...you know... your Chosen People.

We don't really know where you were in the earth years 1940 to 1945. We know everyone needs a break now and then.....even Lord G-d Almighty needs some time off. But really...when we needed you most, you were never around.

You are probably aware of this, but if you have for gotten, over six million of your Chosen People, along with quite a few unchosen others were murdered. They even made lampshades out of our skins. Look, we don't want to dwell on the past, but it gets worse!

Here we are, it's 1948, and millions of us are displaced yet again, when you really pull a fast one. We finally get our own land back! Yes!!!

After all these years, you arrange for us to go back... then all the Arab countries immediately declare war on us. We have to tell you that sometimes your sense of humor really eludes us. Ok, so we win all the wars, but it's now 2006 and nothing's changed. We keep getting blown up, hijacked, and kidnapped. We have no peace whatsoever. Enough is enough.

So, we hope that you understand that nothing's forever (except you of course) and we respectfully would like to pull out of our verbal agreement vis-a-vis being your chosen people.

Look, sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't. Let' s be friends over the next few eons and see what happens. How about this? We're sure you recall that Abraham had a whole other family from Ishmael (the ones who got the oil). How about making them your chosen people for a few thousand years?

Respectfully,
The Committee To Be UN-Chosen

trop mignon - les enfants d'une école religieuse donnent leur point de vue - les fautes ont été laissées


PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE WORDING AND SPELLING. IF YOU ARE EVEN REMOTELY FAMILIAR WITH HOLY SCRIPTURE, YOU'LL FIND THIS HILARIOUS! IT COMES FROM A ROMAN CATHOLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEST. KIDS WERE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS. THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS ABOUT THE BIBLE WERE WRITTEN BY CHILDREN. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RE-TOUCHED OR CORRECTED. INCORRECT SPEL LING HAS BEEN LEFT IN.


1. IN THE FIRST BOOK OF THE BIBLE, GUINESSIS. GOD GOT TIRED OF CREATING THE WORLD SO HE TOOK THE SABBATH OFF.

2. ADAM AND EVE WERE CREATED FROM AN APPLE TREE. NOAH'S WIFE WAS JOAN OF ARK. NOAH BUILT AND ARK AND THE ANIMALS CAME ON IN PEARS.

3. LOTS WIFE WAS A PILLAR OF SALT DURING THE DAY, BUT A BALL OF FIRE DURING THE NIGHT.


4. THE JEWS WERE A PROUD PEOPLE AND THROUGHOUT HISTORY THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH UNSYMPATHETIC GENITALS.

5. SAMPSON WAS A STRONGMAN WHO LET HIM SELF BE LED ASTRAY BY A JEZEBEL LIKE DELILAH.

6. SAMSON SLAYED THE PHILISTINES WITH THE AXE OF THE APOSTLES.

7. MOSES LED THE JEWS TO THE RED SEA WHERE THEY MADE UNLEAVENED BREAD WHICH IS BREAD WITHOUT ANY INGREDIENTS .

8, THE EGYPTIANS WERE ALL DROWNED IN THE DESSERT. AFTER WARDS, MOSES WENT UP TO MOUNT CYANIDE TO GET THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

9. THE FIRST COMMANDMENTS WAS WHEN EVE TOLD ADAM TO EAT THE APPLE.

10. THE SEVENTH COMMANDMENT IS THOU SHALT NOT ADMIT ADULTERY.

11. MOSES DIED BEFORE HE EVER REACHED CANADA .. THEN JOSHUA LED THE HEBREWS IN THE BATTLE OF GERITOL ..

12. THE GREATEST MIRICLE IN THE BIBLE IS WHEN JOSHUA TOLD HIS SON TO STAND STILL AND HE OBEYED HIM.

13. DAVID WAS A HEBREW KING WHO WAS SKILLED AT PLAYING THE LIAR. HE FOUGHT THE FINKELSTEINS, A RACE OF PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN BIBLICAL TIMES.

14. SOLOMON, ONE OF DAVIDS SONS, HAD 300 WIVES AND 700 PORCUPINES.

15. WHEN MARY HEARD SHE WAS THE MOTHER OF JESUS, SHE SANG THE MAGNA CARTA.

16. WHEN THE THREE WISE GUYS FROM THE EAST SIDE ARRIVED THEY FOUND JESUS IN THE MANAGER.

17. JESUS WAS BORN BECAUSE MARY HAD AN IMMACULATE CONTRAPTION.

18. ST. JOHN THE BLACKSMITH DUMPED WATER ON HIS HEAD.

19. JESUS ENUNCIATED THE GOLDEN RULE, WHICH SAYS TO DO UNTO OTHERS BE FORE THEY DO ONE TO YOU. HE ALSO EXPLAINED A MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY SWEAT ALONE..

20. IT WAS A MIRICLE WHEN JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND MANAGED TO GET THE TOMBSTONE OFF THE ENTRANCE.

21. THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOWED THE LORD WERE CALLED THE 12 DECIBELS.

22. THE EPISTELS WERE THE WIVES OF THE A POSTLES.

23. ONE OF THE OPPOSSUMS WAS ST. MATTHEW WHO WAS ALSO A TAXIMAN.


24. ST. PAUL CAVORTED TO CHRISTIANITY, HE PREACHED HOLY ACRIMONY WHICH IS ANOTHER NAME FOR MARRAIGE.

25. CHRISTIANS HAVE ONLY ONE SPOUSE . THIS IS CALLED MONOTONY.

j aime bien le 25 eme...

DOUBLE STANDARD -

What is wrong with Americans ?
STILL A QUESTION OF WRIGHT AND WRONG

By Jeff Jacoby
Wednesday, March 19, 2008

[www.boston.com]
w.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/opd/articles
/2008/03/19/its_still_a_question_of_wright_and_wrong/

I have known my rabbi for more than 20 years. The synagogue he
serves as spiritual leader is one I have attended for a
quarter-century. He officiated at my wedding and was present for
the circumcision of each of my sons. Over the years, I have
sought his advice on matters private and public, religious and
secular. I have heard him speak from the pulpit more times than I
can remember.

My relationship with my rabbi, in other words, is similar in many
respects to Barack Obama's relationship with his longtime pastor,
Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. But if my rabbi began delivering
sermons as toxic, hate-filled, and anti-American as the diatribes
Wright has preached at Chicago's Trinity United Church
of Christ, I wouldn't hesitate to demand that he be dismissed.

Were my rabbi to gloat that America got its just desserts on
9/11, or to claim that the US government invented AIDS as an
instrument of genocide, or to urge his congregants to sing "God
Damn America"
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instead of "God Bless America," I would know about it
straightaway, even if I hadn't actually been in the sanctuary
when he spoke. The news would spread rapidly through the
congregation, and in short order one of two things would happen:
Either the rabbi would be gone, or I and scores of others would
walk out, unwilling to remain in a house of worship that
tolerated such poisonous teachings. I have no doubt that the same
would be true for millions of worshipers in countless houses of
worship nationwide.

But it wasn't true for Obama, whose long and admiring
relationship with Wright, a man he describes as his "mentor,"
remained intact for more than 20 years, notwithstanding the
incendiary and bigoted messages the minister used his pulpit to
promote.

In Philadelphia yesterday, Obama gave a graceful speech on the
theme of race and unity in American life. Much of what he said
was eloquent and stirring, not least his opening paean to the
Founders and the Constitution -- a document "stained by the
nation's original sin of slavery," as he said, yet also one "that
had at its very core the ideal of equal citizenship under the
law; a Constitution that promised its people liberty, and
justice, and a union that could be and should be perfected over
time." There was an echo there of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.,
who in his great "I Have a Dream" speech extolled "the
magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of
Independence" as "a promissory note to which every American was
to fall heir."

The problem for Obama is that Wright, the spiritual leader he
has so long embraced, is a devotee not of King -- who in that
same speech warned against "drinking from the cup of bitterness
and hatred" -- but of the poisonous hatemonger Louis Farrakhan,
whom the church's magazine honored with a lifetime achievement
award. The problem for Obama, who campaigns on a message of
racial reconciliation, is that the "mentor" whose church he
joined and has generously supported with tens of thousands of
dollars in donations is a disciple not of King but of James Cone,
the expounder of a "black liberation" theology that teaches its
adherents to "accept only the love of God which participates in
the destruction of the white enemy."

Above all, the problem for Obama is that for two decades his
spiritual home has been a church in which the minister damns
America to the enthusiastic approval of the congregation, and not
until it threatened to scuttle his political ambitions did Obama
finally find the mettle to condemn the minister's odium.


When Don Imus uttered his infamous slur on the radio last
year, Obama cut him no slack. Imus should be fired, he said.
"There's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if
they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group."
When it came to Wright, however, he wasn't nearly so categorical.
Oh, he's "like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree
with," Obama indulgently explained to one interviewer. He's just
"trying to be provocative ," he told another. "I don't think my
church is actually particularly controversial," he said. Far from
severing his ties to Wright, Obama made him a member of his
Religious Leadership Committee only four days ago.
Such a clanging double standard raises doubts about Obama's
character and judgment, and about his fitness for the role of
race-transcending healer. Yesterday's speech was finely crafted,
but it leaves some serious and troubling questions unanswered.
(Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe.)

Lorsque D-ieu créa le premier chien.......


> > When God created the dog He said
> >
> > 'Sit all day by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes in or walks past. For this, I will give you a life span of twenty years.'
> >
> > The dog said: 'That's a long time to be barking. How about only ten years and I'll give you back the other ten?'
> >
> > So God agreed.
> >
> > Then God created the monkey and said:
> >
> > 'Entertain people, do tricks, and make t hem laugh. For this, I'll give you a twenty-year life span.'
> >
> > The monkey said: 'Monkey tricks for twenty years? That's a pretty long time to perform. How about I give you back ten like the Dog did?'
> >
> > And God agreed.
> >
> > When God created the cow He said:
> >
> > 'You must go into the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under the sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer's family. For this, I will give you a life span of sixty years.'
> >
> > The cow said: 'That's kind of a tough life you want me to live for sixty years. How about twenty and I'll give back the other forty?'
> >
> > And God agreed again.
> >
> > Then God created man and said:
> >
> > 'Eat, sleep, play, marry and enjoy your life. For this, I'll give you twenty years.'
> >
> > But man said: 'Only twenty years? Could you possibly give me my twenty, the forty the cow gave back, the ten the monkey gave back, and the ten the dog gave back; that makes eighty, okay?'
> >
> > 'Okay,' said God, 'You asked for it.'
> >
> > So that is why for our first twenty years we eat, sleep, play and enjoy ourselves. For the next forty years we slave in the sun to support our family. For the next ten years we do monkey tricks to entertain the grandchildren. And for the last ten years we sit on the front porch and bark at everyone.
> >
> > Life has now been explained to you.
> >
> > There is no need to thank me for this valuable information. I'm doing it as a public service.

Destuction of the White ennemy ? WTF, his mother was white, and he lived with her more than he did with his father.
Lison, stop copying bullshit on this forum and use your brain !

La logique ne s'attendrit pas. [V. Hugo]

Fox

we are all subjected to what is said in the news and what they want us to know - still............. I know there is not a chance I will vote for this man.


I dont hear anything good about this middle east program.

Lison

We're all exposed to what is said in the news, but we could be smart enough to discern the truth from the unfounded.
Actuallly, I'm curious to know what good things you've fond in other candidates program.
You must be from those who support McCain, the friend of Bush who regrets nothing from Iraq war.

La logique ne s'attendrit pas. [V. Hugo]

I 've made my choice of course, i am a conservative person, when I was younger, I've always voted democrat. Today, I will vote republican.

I live in Israel, near Sderot, I dont JUST read the news ! i live them everytime we live the house to go shopping, I hear my neighbors, I run to hide under shelters as soon as I Hear THE RED ALERT! I am an american citizen, I am a french citizen, and according to the king of Morocco, I am his subject. How about that ?

My vote in Morocco will be for the King, because his father and grandfather were good man and Just toward the Jews.


So now you know.

Elisabeth

Well, in Morocco, you have no choice but to vote for the King.
In the US, you do. And it seems like you chose the less exciting side, which inherited a lot of losers. Still, it's a choice.

And yes, now i know, but not much more than I used to think ...

La logique ne s'attendrit pas. [V. Hugo]

Lison2 a écrit:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I 've made my choice of course, i am a
> conservative person, when I was younger, I've
> always voted democrat. Today, I will vote
> republican.
>
> I live in Israel, near Sderot, I dont JUST read
> the news ! i live them everytime we live the house
> to go shopping, I hear my neighbors, I run to hide
> under shelters as soon as I Hear THE RED ALERT! I
> am an american citizen, I am a french citizen, and
> according to the king of Morocco, I am his
> subject. How about that ?
>
> My vote in Morocco will be for the King, because
> his father and grandfather were good man and Just
> toward the Jews.
>
>
> So now you know.

very democratic !


>
> Elisabeth

&lt;center&gt; Le sage cherche la vérité tandis que l’imbécile l’a déjà trouvée&lt;/center&gt;

time will tell !

so who are you Fox ? you can think what you want.

E