Une femme juive grande favorite pour la Maison Blanche

slimane,

je trouve votre point de vue là dessus tres juste et interessant.

Elisabeth

bien dit Slimane.
Ils disent ça pour ne pas voir la realité en façe, les americains ne demandent qu'a etre des amis aves les arabes comme avec Israel. Les israeliens sont intelligents d'avoir accueilli cette amitié pour servir l'interet des deux pays, et pourquoi pas nous autres.

Slimane a parfaitement raison. Il n'y a que les arabes qui continuent indéfiniment à donner de l'importance à ces liens tribaux et de sang...

Bédouins on était,bédouins on reste...

BONSOIR DERKA,


-Mais non les américains sont bien amis avec tous les pays arabes excepté la Sirie, malgré qu’on l’attribue à l’axe du mal, on trouve aumoins moyen d’y envoyer des terroristes pour interrogatoires…surtout aux pays du golf, tout est américain…le seul problème de toute cette amitié est dans le soutien inconditionnel non seulement positionnel mais aussi militaire à Israël au détriment des palestiniens…Donc c’est les Arabes, avec pragmatisme, qui malgré cette grande divergence, font preuve de + que tolérance et coopèrent à merveille avec les américains. C’est plutôt les pays arabes qui demandent d’être amis avec USA au même niveau qu’Israël…

Mes amis voici la liste de tous les ancetres de Mme Hillary Clinton.

Ces branches de son arbre genealogique s'etalent du jour de sa naissance jusqu'a l'annee 1678,

m. Ombersley, co. Warwick, 29 Sept. 1678
1681 Ann Bradley

j'ai remarque beaucoup d'Anglais, Pays de Galles et un ou deux du Canada, le reste tous nes aux USA.

Amicalement,

elie

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The Ancestors of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (b. 1947)

by William Addams Reitwiesner
The following material on the immediate ancestry of Sen. Hillary Clinton should not be considered either exhaustive or definitive, but rather as a first draft.

Robert Battle and Yvonne Demoskoff contributed to this report.

William Addams Reitwiesner



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Ancestry of Hillary Rodham Clinton
1 Hillary Diane Rodham
* Edgewater Hospital, Chicago, Ill., 26 Oct. 1947
US Senator from New York 2001-current
m. Fayetteville, Ark., 11 Oct. 1975
William Jefferson Clinton (until 12 June 1962 "William Jefferson Blythe IV"
* Hope, Ark., 19 Aug. 1946
son of William Jefferson Blythe III and of Virginia Dell Cassidy.

Further details of his ancestry can be found here.

Issue:

A. Chelsea Victoria Clinton
* Little Rock, Ark., 27 Feb. 1980.

PARENTS
2 Hugh Ellsworth Rodham
* Scranton, Pa., 2 Apr. 1911
in 1920 living with parents in Scranton
in 1930 living with parents in Scranton
+ Little Rock, Ark., 7 Apr. 1993, bur. Washburn Street Cemetery, Scranton
[SSDI 196-03-4063]
m. ... [early] 1942
3 Dorothy Emma Howell
* Chicago, Ill., ... 1919
in 1920 living with parents in Chicago
in 1930 living with paternal grandparents in Alhambra
living in Washington DC in 2006
GRANDPARENTS
4 Hugh Rodham, lace mill worker
* Kyo, co. Durham, 16 Aug. 1879 [IGI]
in 1881 living with parents in Kyo
emigrated to the US in 1882
in 1900 a Laborer in a Lace Mill living with parents in Scranton
in 1910 a Lace Mill worker in Scranton
in 1920 a Lace Mill worker in Scranton
in 1930 a Lace Worker in Scranton
+ ... Pa., 5 March 1965
[SSDI 196-03-3970]
m. ...
5 Hannah Jones
* ... , Pa., ... June 1882
in 1900 living with parents in Scranton
in 1910 living with husband in Scranton
in 1920 living with husband in Scranton
in 1930 living with husband in Scranton
+ ... 1952
6 Edwin John Howell, Jr.
* Elgin, Kane Co., Ill., 10 Jan. 1897
in 1900 living with parents in Elgin
in 1910 living with parents in Elgin
in 1920 living in Chicago
in 1930 a Chauffeur living in Chicago
+ San Francisco, Cal., 4 June 1946 [California Death Index]
m. (by a Baptist minister) Chicago, Ill., ... 1918, div. ... 1926/7
7 Della Murray
* Aurora, Ill., 17 June 1902
in 1910 living with parents in Detroit
in 1920 living with husband in Chicago
+ Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, Fla., 25 March 1960 [Florida Certificate of Death 60-010931]
she m2. 1933, Max Rosenberg, * Russia 21 X 1901, + Los Angeles March 1984 [SSDI 324-18-1878]

GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
8 Jonathan Rodham
* Holmside, Wagtail Cottages, Lanchester, co. Durham, 7 June 1843 [IGI]
bapt. Lanchester, co. Durham, 10 June 1843 [IGI]
in 1851 living with parents in Holmside
in 1861 a Coal Miner living in Lanchester
in 1871 a Coal Miner living in Kyo
in 1881 a Colliery Overman living in Kyo
in 1900 a Policeman living in Scranton
in 1910 a Florist living in Scranton
+ ... 16 Sept. 1917, bur. Chinchilla Cemetery, Scranton, Pa.
m. Durham, co. Durham, 31 Dec. 1867 [IGI]
9 Isabella Simpson Bell,
* Annfield Plain, Kyo, co. Durham, 24 Sept. 1849 [IGI]
in 1851 living with parents in Kyo Laws
in 1861 living with parents in Collierly
in 1871 living with husband in Kyo
in 1881 living with husband in Kyo
emigrated to Scranton, Pa., in 1882 with her eight children to join her husband who was already there
in 1900 living with husband in Scranton
in 1910 living with husband in Scranton
+ ... 16 May 1917, bur. Chinchilla Cemetery, Scranton, Pa.
10 John Jones
* ... Wales, ... Aug. 1836
in 1879 emigrated to US
in 1880 a Miner living in Scranton
in 1900 a Teamster living in Scranton
in 1900 a coal mine laborer living in Scranton
+ ...
m.
11 Mary ----
* ... Wales, ... May 1839
in 1879 emigrated to US
in 1880 living with husband in Scranton
in 1900 living with husband in Scranton
+ ... [by 1910]
12 Edwin John Howell
* Bristol, co. Gloucester, 20 Apr. 1867
in 1871 living with parents in Swansea
in 1881 a Dray Boy living with parents in Bedminster
in 1900 a machinist living in Elgin
in 1910 a Machinist, Watch Factory, living in Elgin
in 1920 a Foreman in an Auto Company living in Chicago
in 1930 a Machinist, Auto, living in Alhambra
+ Los Angeles Co., Cal., 10 Jan. 1941 [California Death Index]
m. Kane Co., Ill., 30 Dec 1894 [Illinois Marriage Index, Kane Co. license #9663]
13 Emma Josephine Monk
* ... , Canada, 29 Nov. 1874
in 1880 living with parents in Detroit
in 1900 living with husband in Elgin
in 1910 living with husband in Elgin
in 1920 living with husband in Chicago
in 1930 living with husband in Alhambra
+ Los Angeles Co., Cal., 21 Dec. 1940 [California Death Index]
14 Daniel (or Donald) Murray
* ... , Ontario, Canada, ... Nov. 1859
in 1900 a Polisher living in Aurora, Ill.
in 1910 a Harness Maker living in Detroit
in 1920 a Watchman living in Chicago
+ ...
m. Detroit, Mich., 6 April 1882 [Wayne County Michigan Marriage Records, vol. I, 1880-1884, page 366, entry 1351]
15 Delia Martin
* Marquette Co., Michigan, ... [April 1862?]
in 1900 living with husband in Aurora
in 1910 living with husband in Detroit
in 1920 living with husband in Chicago
+ ...
GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
16 Joseph Rodham
* Tanfield, co. Durham, 2 Nov. 1817 [IGI]
in 1851 a Coal Miner living in Holmside
in 1861 a Coal Miner living in Lanchester
in 1871 a Coal Miner living in Lanchester
+ South Pontop Colliery ... [Jan-Mar] 1874
m. Tanfield, co. Durham, ... 1841
17 Elizabeth Scurfield
* Tanfield, co. Durham, bef. 13 Oct. 1816 [IGI]
in 1851 living with her husband in Holmside
in 1861 living with her husband in Lanchester
in 1871 living with her husband in Lanchester
in 1881 living with her grandson in Collierly
in 1891 living with her son-in-law in Collierly
in 1901 living with her granddaughter in Kyo
+ Lanchester, co. Durham, ... [Jan-Mar] 1909
18 Thomas Bell
* Walls End, co. Northumberland, ... [ca. 1801]
in 1851 a Coal Miner living in Kyo Laws
in 1861 a Colliery Forman living in Collierly
+
m.
19 Elizabeth Dawson
* Walls End, c. Northumberland, ... [ca. 1819]
in 1851 living with her husband in Kyo Laws
+
24 Edwin Howell
* Bristol, Gloucester, ... [Oct-Dec] 1846
in 1851 living with parents in Bedminster
in 1861 a Shipwright living with parents in Bedminster
in 1871 a Ship Carpenter living in Swansea
in 1881 a Ship Carpenter living in Bedminster
+ ...
m. Bristol, Gloucester, ... [Apr-Jun] 1864
25 Jane Sophia Babb
* Bristol, Gloucester, ... [Apr-Jun] 1844
in 1851 living with her parents in Bedminster
in 1871 living with her husband in Swansea
in 1881 living with her husband in Bedminster
+ ...
26 John H ... Monk
* ... , New York, ... June 1838
in 1850 living with parents in Cohoes
in 1880 a cigar packer living in Detroit
in 1900 a cigar maker living in Elgin
in 1910 a resident of the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, in Danville, Ill.
+ Old Soldiers' Home, Danville, Ill, 15 July 1910 [or 1916], bur. Bluff City, Elgin, Kane Co., Ill
m. ... [ca. 1867]
27 Sarah Abbs
* ... , England, ... Dec. 1841
in 1880 living with husband in Detroit
in 1900 living with husband in Elgin
in 1910 living with son-in-law in Elgin
+ ... [survived husband]
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
32 Jonathan Roddam
* Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, 26 Sept. 1779 [IGI]
+
m. St. Mary-le-Bow, co. Durham, 25 Nov. 1805 [IGI]
33 Ann Parkinson
* Bishop Auckland, co. Durham, ... 1786 [IGI]
+ ... [last child b. Tanfield, co. Durham, 21 Nov. 1824], bur. Tanfield 5 Oct. 1836
34 Thomas Scurfield
* Tanfield, co. Durham, 28 May 1789 [IGI]
in 1851 a Coal Miner in Holmside
+ Chester Le Street, co. Durham, ... [Jan-Feb] 1867
m. Tanfield, co. Durham, 29 May 1813 [IGI]
35 Margaret Charlton
bapt. Tanfield, co. Durham, 13 Sept. 1795 [IGI]
in 1851 living with husband in Holmside
+ Craighead, co. Durham, ... [bef. 9 Dec. 1853]
48 Benjamin Enoch Howell
* ... , co. Pembroke, ... [ca. 1802]
in 1851 a Shipwright living in Bedminster
in 1861 a Shipwright living in Bedminster
+ Bedminster, co. Somerset, ... [Jan-Mar] 1867
m.
49 Harriett ----
* Backwell, co. Somerset, ... [ca. 1803]
in 1851 a shoe binder living with husband in Bedminster
in 1861 living with husband in Bedminster
in 1881 a widow living in Bedminster
+ Bedminster, co. Somerset, ... [Jul-Sep] 1883
50 Francis Babb
* Bridgewater, Somerset, ... [ca. 1819]
in 1851 a floor cloth painter in Bedminster
in 1861 a floor cloth painter in Bedminster
in 1881 a labourer in Bedminster
+ Bedminster, Somerset, ... [Oct-Dec] 1882
m. St. Michaels, Bristol, Gloucester, 6 Oct. 1842 [IGI]
51 Eleanor Williams
* Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire, ... [ca. 1820]
in 1851 living with her husband in Bedminster
in 1861 living with her husband in Bedminster
in 1871 living with her son-in-law in Swansea
in 1881 living with her husband in Bedminster
in 1891 living in Bedminster
+ Bedminster, Somerset, ... [Apr-Jun] 1897
52 Thomas Monk
bapt. Saint John, Coventry, co. Warwick, 24 Feb. 1809 [IGI]
in 1850 a Draper living in Cohoes
in 1860 a Merchant living in Cohoes
in 1870 a Carpet Weaver living in Cohoes
in 1880 living in Cohoes
+ ...
m. Holy Trinity, Coventry, co. Warwick, 19 May 1832 [IGI]
53 Harriet Hinton
bapt. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 10 Apr. 1809 [IGI]
in 1850 living with husband in Cohoes
in 1860 living with husband in Cohoes
in 1870 living with husband in Cohoes
in 1880 living with husband in Cohoes
+ ...
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
64 Joseph Roddam
* Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, ... [ca. 1742]
+ bur. Tanfield ... 1822 ae. 80
m. Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, 21 May 1774 [IGI]
65 Dorothy Bell
* Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, 26 Aug. 1750 [IGI]
+ ... [last child b. Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, 2 Sept. 1787],
bur. Tanfield ... 1835 ae. 87
68 John Scurfield
* ca. 1750
+ ... 20 May 1800
m. Tanfield, co. Durham, 19 Aug. 1775 [IGI]
69 Elizabeth Graham
* ca. 1754
+ ... 1828
70 Fenwick Charlton
*
+
m. Tanfield, co. Durham, 15 May 1788 [IGI]
71 Alice Stodart
*
+
104 George Monk
* Coventry, co. Warwick, ... 1778
+ Coventry, co. Warwick, 11 Oct. 1840
m. Saint Michaels, Coventry, co. Warwick, 20 Oct. 1799 [IGI]
105 Elizabeth Cotterell
bapt. Meriden, Warwickshire, 22 June 1781 [IGI]
in 1851 a Ribon Weaver [sic] living in Coventry
+
106 John Hinton
bapt. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 6 March 1787 [IGI]
in 1851 a carpenter living in Coventry
bur. London Road Cemetery, Coventry, co. Warwick, 2 Jan. 1853
m. Coventry, co. Warwick, 4 Apr. 1804 [IGI]
107 Jane Hodiernne
bapt. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 11 Nov. 1782
bur. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 9 March 1823
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
130 John Bell
* Birtley Fell, co. Durham, ... [ca. 1724]
+
m. Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, 28 Nov. 1749 [IGI]
131 Eleanor Whittigar
* Chester-le-Street, co. Durham, ... [ca. 1728]
+
136 John Scurfield
*
+ ... 1785
m. Tanfield, co. Durham, 14 Sept. 1730 [IGI]
137 Hannah Coldcole
*
+ ... 1763
208 Samuel Monk
*
+
m.
209 Elizabeth ----
*
+
210 Thomas Cotterell
* Doverdole, co. Warwick, 16 Sept. 1760 [IGI]
+
m.
211 Mary ----
*
+
212 John Hinton
bapt. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 23 June 1756
+ ... 30 Aug. 1834
m. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 2 July 1779 [IGI]
213 Sarah Floyd
* ... [ca. 1758]
bur. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 2o March 1831
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
274 ---- Coldcole
*
+
m.
275 Rebecca ----
*
+ ... 2 Jan. 1794
420 Thomas Cotterell
* Bromsgrove, co. Warwick, 19 May 1719
+
m. Holy Trinity, Coventry, co. Warwick, 4 May 1746
421 Mary Ellis
*
+
424 John Hinton
* ... [ca. 1729]
+ ...
m. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 29 June 1751
425 Elizabeth Essex
bapt. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 20 March 1723
bur. Saint Michael, Coventry, co. Warwick, 3 Dec. 1779
7/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
840 Thomas Cotterell
* Ombersley, co. Warwick, 6 Aug. 1679
+
m.
841 Elizabeth Lashford
*
+
850 Benjamin Essex
*
+
m.
851 ----
*
+
8/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
1680 Thomas Cotterell
*
+
m. Ombersley, co. Warwick, 29 Sept. 1678
1681 Ann Bradley
*
+
1682 Thomas Lashford
*
+
m.
1683 Anne Blakeway
*
+
9/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

10/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

11/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
Pièces jointes:

BONSOIR COHENELIE,


Je vous remercie vivement pour ces infos claires et nettes des plus profondes origines d’Hillary Clinton.


Bien que je n’aie pas eu, jusqu’à présent, l’occasion de rentrer avec vous en débat sur un sujet, sachez que je lis avec admiration vos contributions toujours d’une exhaustivité impressionnante et exemplaire. Je vous en félicite. Pour moi, vous êtes le seul vrai grand intellectuel de notre merveilleux DAFINA. Merci M. Elie COHEN de continuer à nous éclairer.


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