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Re: Obama 29 mars 2010, 11:39 |
Lison, my friend,
Since a picture is worth a thousand words, voici la photo d'un ennemi juré du peuple d'Israël.
Devine qui est toujours là ?
Pièces jointes:
Since a picture is worth a thousand words, voici la photo d'un ennemi juré du peuple d'Israël.
Devine qui est toujours là ?
Pièces jointes:
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Re: Obama 31 mars 2010, 09:16 |
Citation
surfeuse
Lison, my friend,
Since a picture is worth a thousand words, voici la photo d'un ennemi juré du peuple d'Israël.
Devine qui est toujours là ?
you mean Pharaon? ma chère Surfeuse, l'ennemi juré il y en a beaucoup! Ahmadinejab, Nasralla, le Turc.... Obama on attends
envoi moi la réponse par MP -
bises
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Re: Obama 01 avril 2010, 00:33 |
Is Obama Pharoah?
[www.economist.com]
SO MUCH depends, in politics, on making the other guy look like the jerk. If you look back to last summer, when the Obama administration initially came out with its stance against further Israeli settlements in the West Bank, you saw a lot of commentary that attempted to make the Americans look like the bad guys. The move was a diplomatic blunder, Israeli apologists said, because the settlements hadn't been high on the list of priorities of the Palestinian leadership; but with Mr Obama having called for a freeze, the PA could not afford to be less anti-settlement than the Americans. Since such a freeze was politically unacceptable to the right-wing elements in Israel's coalition government, that led to an impasse. And so most Israelis, and some supporters abroad, laid the blame for the breakdown at the feet of the Obama administration.
That storyline has been rendered irrelevant over the past month by Israeli blunders and intransigence. If it was ever unclear who was being foolhardy and diplomatically incompetent, the repeated announcements of new development in Arab neighbourhoods of East Jerusalem over the past few weeks, which embarrassed Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and ultimately torpedoed indirect Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that were to have been shepherded by George Mitchell, put all doubt to rest. Danny Danon, a far-right Likud member of the Knesset, had already distinguished himself by calling the Obama administration's objections to construction of new Jewish neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem "racist", but this weekend, with Passover approaching, it seems to me he outdid himself:
“As Jews around the world prepare to celebrate Pessah – the festival of freedom – President Obama’s condescending and insulting behavior reminds us of how we were treated by Pharaoh in Egypt,” Danon said. “President Obama must understand that we are a sovereign nation in our own land and won’t bow to foreign rulers.”
With guys like this around, it's perhaps no great accomplishment to have made Israel's right-wing government look like jerks in the eyes of the world. The question is to what extent the Israeli public will acknowledge this assessment, or care about it, and to what extent it's likely to influence Israeli policy. In the first category, Yossi Verter at Ha'aretz thinks Bibi Netanyahu will have to dissolve his coalition and form a new one with the more centrist Kadima party, or he will severely damage relations with America, the sine qua non of Israeli security. Ha'aretz is a left-wing paper, but even so, the commentators there seem to be really freaking out this week: Akiva Eldar says Messrs Obama and Netanyahu are "at the point of no return"; Ziv Bar'el says Mr Netanyahu is "endangering Israel's security". Meanwhile, on the right, the Jerusalem Post has been largely silent on the tension since Mr Netanyahu returned from a Washington visit last week widely described as a debacle. On Friday, the paper's Gil Hoffman reported Mr Netanyahu had no intention of dissolving his coalition to bring in Kadima. And editor David Horovitz tried to deflect attention by arguing that the Palestinian leadership was not serious about a peace deal, and thus the issue of Israeli construction in East Jerusalem was a mere side issue.
As for how this will influence Israeli policy, that's not clear. Shimon Peres declared it was Mr Netanyahu, not the Americans, who violated previous understandings on construction in East Jerusalem, but Mr Peres is an aging lion of the left and his influence is waning. As for the idea that the Palestinians aren't serious about a peace deal, we've been hearing that excuse for a good 20 years now from the Israeli right, ever since Yasser Arafat and the PLO first recognised Israel's right to exist. In that period, housing for at least 200,000 Jews has been constructed in the West Bank. People are making their own judgments about who's serious about a peace deal, and who isn't.
[www.economist.com]
SO MUCH depends, in politics, on making the other guy look like the jerk. If you look back to last summer, when the Obama administration initially came out with its stance against further Israeli settlements in the West Bank, you saw a lot of commentary that attempted to make the Americans look like the bad guys. The move was a diplomatic blunder, Israeli apologists said, because the settlements hadn't been high on the list of priorities of the Palestinian leadership; but with Mr Obama having called for a freeze, the PA could not afford to be less anti-settlement than the Americans. Since such a freeze was politically unacceptable to the right-wing elements in Israel's coalition government, that led to an impasse. And so most Israelis, and some supporters abroad, laid the blame for the breakdown at the feet of the Obama administration.
That storyline has been rendered irrelevant over the past month by Israeli blunders and intransigence. If it was ever unclear who was being foolhardy and diplomatically incompetent, the repeated announcements of new development in Arab neighbourhoods of East Jerusalem over the past few weeks, which embarrassed Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and ultimately torpedoed indirect Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that were to have been shepherded by George Mitchell, put all doubt to rest. Danny Danon, a far-right Likud member of the Knesset, had already distinguished himself by calling the Obama administration's objections to construction of new Jewish neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem "racist", but this weekend, with Passover approaching, it seems to me he outdid himself:
“As Jews around the world prepare to celebrate Pessah – the festival of freedom – President Obama’s condescending and insulting behavior reminds us of how we were treated by Pharaoh in Egypt,” Danon said. “President Obama must understand that we are a sovereign nation in our own land and won’t bow to foreign rulers.”
With guys like this around, it's perhaps no great accomplishment to have made Israel's right-wing government look like jerks in the eyes of the world. The question is to what extent the Israeli public will acknowledge this assessment, or care about it, and to what extent it's likely to influence Israeli policy. In the first category, Yossi Verter at Ha'aretz thinks Bibi Netanyahu will have to dissolve his coalition and form a new one with the more centrist Kadima party, or he will severely damage relations with America, the sine qua non of Israeli security. Ha'aretz is a left-wing paper, but even so, the commentators there seem to be really freaking out this week: Akiva Eldar says Messrs Obama and Netanyahu are "at the point of no return"; Ziv Bar'el says Mr Netanyahu is "endangering Israel's security". Meanwhile, on the right, the Jerusalem Post has been largely silent on the tension since Mr Netanyahu returned from a Washington visit last week widely described as a debacle. On Friday, the paper's Gil Hoffman reported Mr Netanyahu had no intention of dissolving his coalition to bring in Kadima. And editor David Horovitz tried to deflect attention by arguing that the Palestinian leadership was not serious about a peace deal, and thus the issue of Israeli construction in East Jerusalem was a mere side issue.
As for how this will influence Israeli policy, that's not clear. Shimon Peres declared it was Mr Netanyahu, not the Americans, who violated previous understandings on construction in East Jerusalem, but Mr Peres is an aging lion of the left and his influence is waning. As for the idea that the Palestinians aren't serious about a peace deal, we've been hearing that excuse for a good 20 years now from the Israeli right, ever since Yasser Arafat and the PLO first recognised Israel's right to exist. In that period, housing for at least 200,000 Jews has been constructed in the West Bank. People are making their own judgments about who's serious about a peace deal, and who isn't.
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